Podcast: Escaping the Logic of Extraction

The ecological crisis is foremost a crisis in our ways of thinking. In "The Ecology of Ideas" podcast, CBS Associate professor and digital ecologist Attila Márton converses with thought leaders in an attempt to learn about how we have to change our philosophies to develop an ecologic style of thinking. In this episode, the concept of Escaping the Logic of Extraction is discussed, along with how entrenched institutional structures hinder collective action, and how bold, shared transformations may offer a more hopeful path forward.

By CBS Executive Education

None of us would say we want war, poverty, or environmental collapse. And yet, these crises continue to unfold around us. Why is it so hard to collaborate and prevent the very things we all oppose?

In this episode, Attila Márton is joined by Maja Göpel, German political economist and transformation researcher, to explore this question. According to Maja, the problem lies in the deep structures of our institutions, which are still shaped by a logic of extraction and a culture of incrementalism. These frameworks limit our ability to respond meaningfully to systemic challenges like climate change.

Maja invites us to imagine new ways of organising society that break free from small, cautious steps and instead embrace bold, collective transformation rooted in an ecological mindset.

This episode is part of the Ecology of Ideas podcast.

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Attila Márton is Associate Professor at the Department of Digitalisation at CBS.

His primary research areas are:

Ecological Thinking and the Future(s) of Organisation
The Political Ecology of AI
Transplanetary Ecology

Attila looks at making digitalisation serve humanity: "I call myself a digital ecologist, as I am drawing on ecological thinking to understand our “togetherness” when it comes to the digital transformation of fundamental aspects of the human condition and beyond. To this effect, I am currently exploring the co-evolutionary dynamics between platforms and their respective ecosystems, the political ecology of digital labour and AI, the sociology of digital knowledge and forgetting, and, when I get to it, the expansion of humanity into outer space."

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Podcast: Escaping the Logic of Extraction

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